Over the last few years, fans of the Sex Pistols and Sid
Vicious were rocked to find out that back in 1977, Sid had
been briefly involved with another woman other than his now
infamous girlfriend, Nancy Spungen. That woman was Teddie
Dhalin, the bands translator on the Scandinavian leg of their
'Never Mind The Bans' tour of 1977. I first became aware of
Teddie when I read of her remembrances of the tour in the
previous book "Sex Pistols Exiled In Norway", and thought
then how fantastic a whole book would be, even though their
being together was for such a short time. As well as now
writing for www.mudkiss.com, Teddie has gone public, and now
penned the book "A Vicious Love Story", which hits all good
retailers on 13th July, and promises to be "A Sex Pistols
Book with a difference"........Something I cannot wait for.
Teddie has very kindly had a quick chat with me, to tell us
more about her story, their story, and more besides, so let's
get down to it.
Hello Teddie, and thank you for doing this
interview. I am a huge Sex Pistols fanatic and historian, so
it is a huge pleasure for me to talk to you. Firstly, can you
tell me when you first heard of the Sex Pistols, and what
your first thoughts were?
Hi Jonny, my pleasure. I donít actually have a
memory of when I first heard of the Sex Pistols. They were
just suddenly there. It wasnít my kind of music, but as Iíd
lived in England I knew where they were coming from and why
they had become so popular. It was a time of unrest and there
were strikes and riots and racial tension. The Sex Pistols
were the symbol of a movement of discontent with the way
things were at the time. I didnít like the fact that they
disrespected the Queen and I didnít enjoy their music. I
preferred disco Donna Summer , Boney MÖ music I could dance
You became the translator for them on the
Scandinavian tour of 1977, when the band had been forced (or
pushed) to play out of the UK, On this tour you had a
relationship with Sid Vicious, which is what your new book is
about. How did the relationship start, and how did you find
Sid differing from his image in the press?
The first time I met Sid Vicious, he was asleep.
Tore Lande, the Norwegian promoter had asked me to read up on
the band so Iíd know who was who, but as a typical 16 year
old I had a tan to work on and friends to hang out with, so I
didnít put too much effort in to it. I had a quick peek at a
photo of them, but it was taken the previous year and
featured Glen Matlock as the bass player. I met the band in
the hotel reception when Tore and I arrived to check them in.
Sid was asleep on a sofa as Steve Jones had brought a girl up
to a party in Sids room the previous night and taken his bed.
Sid had been sitting in a chair all night and thought heíd
sleep in the van on the drive from Oslo to Trondheim, but
couldnít get comfortable. So heíd basically fallen asleep
waiting for us. I was sitting at his feet as Tore was sorting
out the rooms and there wasnít anything for me to do. Sid
sort of opened his eyes and looked straight at me trying to
work out where he was and who I was. We just clicked. I
didnít recognise him from the photo so I thought he was a
roadie. He introduced himself to me as ĎJohn, but you can
call me Sidí. I didnít let him get too close to me to begin
with and we spent the whole day flirting basically. Sid was
trying to work out how to move things along but I wasnít
cooperating to begin with. We got to know each other and
talked a lot. He asked me to look after his beloved leather
jacket during the concert and when he came off stage he just
walked straight over to me and kissed me. It took me by
surprise because Sid was shy, and he just told me how he
Sid was smart. He was streetwise, but also very intelligent.
I didnít reflect on how his real persona differed from his
image at the time since Iíd never heard of him before. That
came later. The press want to make him into this nihilistic
caricature of popular myth. They exaggerate everything he did
and said, because they wanted him to be outrageous. They
hinted that he was drunk and drugged up. No one had any
alcohol until after the concert. We drank coke (the fizzy
drink). Sid didnít do any drugs until very late that night
and it totally freaked me out when I saw him shoot up some
speed. He had to promise me not to use any or I would leave.
He promised and kept his promise.
Footage and Audio recordings of this tour show
the band in a good spot, playing really tightly, albeit with
Sid unplugged for many shows, although in many shots taken,
he seems to be happy, and having a good time. Do you think
you were the cause of this? and if so, How did you guys spend
You have to realize I was only with Sid for a very
short time. I didnít go with him for the rest of the tour to
Sweden because my mother had hidden my passport and cut off
my allowance and threatened to call the police. Sid had been
accused of throwing a glass at the 100 Club and blinding a
girl and he had a court case on either 25th or 26 of July and
had to go back to England. I didnít want to risk him being
delayed because of my parents. We agreed I sort things out
at home and meet up in London the week later. Sadly however I
wasnít given my passport until Christmas 1977. Sid sent me
massages via friends wanting to know what the problem was and
why I wasnít coming. McLaren set up a new Scandinavian tour
for right after the US Tour that we were excited about, but
we all know what happened to that.
We basically just hung out when they had their free time.
Went shopping, had lunch. Just normal stuff. The whole band
went to a museum, but I didnít want to go. The Norwegian fans
behaved with respect and didnít bother us at all much really.
Why has it taken so long for you to step out of
the shadows and come forward with this incredible story?
Before Sid died I was keeping my eye on him via the
media, but I was hurt heíd gotten into drugs so deeply and
gone back to Nancy. I know I was very much on his mind until
the US tour. But the fact remained that he was still seeing
Nancy and he knew there was no way Iíd see him if he was. As
time passed I could see him spiralling out of control and I
avoided reading about him. When Sid died I didnít handle it
well at all. It totally fucked me up and the only way I could
deal with it was not to deal with it, if that makes any
sense. When he died I felt guilty for not doing more to get
to him. I felt Iíd let him down. The only way I could handle
Sidís death was to put it away into a place in my heart and
not look at it. I couldnít go near the hotel weíd stayed at
and I avoided reading anything about him. I refused to talk
to people about it.
In 2010 a Norwegian author contacted me because heíd heard I
was involved in the tour and he was writing a book about it.
I wasnít really interested to begin with and I held back the
details, but I ended up writing a big chunk of his book. At
the same time it forced me to take out the memories and
relive them again. It was really hard, but suddenly other
friends of Sid contacted me and helped me get through it.
Eileen Polk has been amazing. She is DeeDee Ramoneís ex
girlfriend and a close friend to Sidís mother, Anne, in New
York. We both had trouble talking about it and we have helped
each other. I didnít know about anything that happened after
Sid died. There were so many lies out there. People were
suddenly wanting to know more about me and the time I spent
with Sid, so I decided Iíd write my own book. Eileen filled
me in on all the details from New York and has practically
written the last chapter of my book for me. I want to try to
get some sort of truth about Sid out to people. So many have
just bought in to all the hype around him.
You were not a fan of punk music at the time you
were involved with Sid and The Pistols, and you said you knew
nothing about Nancy (Sid's Girlfriend) at the time. How did
you find out about her, and how did that make you feel?
Oh boy, I was so mad I was fuming like an Aberdeen
Angus. What happened was that it was late at an after concert
party at the hotel. Steve Jones had been trying to chat up
Nina my friend, but she wasnít interested and left. There
were plenty of girls around so I found it a bit strange he
suddenly came in to Johnís suite and sat beside me and Sid on
the sofa. He sat for a little while listening to Sid ask me
to come to London etc and then he casually asked Sid to get
him a packet of cigarettes from his room. Sid refused to
begin with. I think there was some sort of issues I didnít
know about but that I picked up on. It ended with Sid doing
it, as Steve offered him a packet for himself and said his
back was giving him trouble . As soon as Sid had left the
room, Steve took his cigarettes from his pocket and smiled
slyly at me and showed me there were plenty of cigarettes in
the packet. I was a bit dim to begin with and didnít get it.
Then he put his arm on the back of the sofa and leaned closer
and kissed me. It caught me by surprise. So I pulled back
and asked him not to do that as he knew I was with Sid and he
became quite indignant and said I should be careful with Sid
as Nancy, his girlfriend wouldnít like me messing around with
her boyfriend. Of course when Sid came back with the
cigarettes I confronted him. He didnít deny it. He told me it
wasnít that sort of a relationship. They could see other
people. I told him I wasnít interested if he had a
girlfriend. But he explained that heíd gotten in late to his
place just before he was to leave on tour and found a guy in
his bathroom. He said he didnít give a toss about who Nancy
slept with, but this guy was his worst enemy and he thought
Nancy found some weird satisfaction in bringing him back to
Sidís bed. He was so sick of the whining and nagging and
didnít want to see her any more. Their relationship had only
been an on/off sort of thing for a couple of months and he
was tired of it. He had to work hard at stopping me from
leaving, but I believed him in the end.
After the relationship ended, did you follow the
Sex Pistols or Sid Vicious story to its very sad and tragic
ending, and if so, what were your thoughts?
I think Iíve already answered this above. I canít
really term what Sid and I had as a relationship to be
honest. It was a short and very intense time and it never
really ended. He went to London and I was stuck in Norway. I
felt so cheated but like most 16 year olds, I moved on after
Christmas 1977. I always believed Iíd see him again. I was
desperate to be older and I was furious that as a 16 year old
you have absolutely no rights. I couldnít get a passport
myself, nor my birth certificate. I was stuck and there was
nothing I could do about it.
As I said earlier I couldnít deal with it, so no I didnít
follow him at all. He sent me a message that he was coming
back. They had set up another Scandinavian tour and for me to
meet him in Stockholm for the start of it. I was so excited.
I got that message in November 1977. When I learned they had
split the band up on the US tour I was so angry with him. I
felt he chose drugs and Nancy over me and I had to get on
with my life. I have already told you how his death effected
me. I was devastated and I still canít watch the interview he
gave after Nancy died.
Did you go see the Sex Pistols on any of their
re-union gigs in Scandinavia?
No. I didnít enjoy their music and at the time of
the reunion gigs, I was still not looking back so I didnít
want to go to any of the gigs. I met Glen Matlock a little
while ago and interviewed him for the music magazine in the
UK that I write for; Mudkiss.com. Then he let me cover a gig
for the sexpistols.net site and that is the first time one of
the Sex Pistols has performed with me in the audience after
1977. And I think that is also the first time I have actually
enjoyed their music. Of course Glen did most of his own stuff
too from after he left the band and started his own. But it
was all good .
I read you have received some negative comments
from the Sex Pistols on your book, one even telling you, "Sod
Off!" ( I can guess who that is!"), Do you know why this is?
As it seems to me you are only telling your story, and
shouldn't be seen in a bad light from them.
That was a year ago and about the other book I was
working on. The comment to Ďsod offí was my interpretation of
a 20 minute talk I had with a certain band members manager.
He didnít actually say Ďsod offí. I think the Sex Pistols are
fed up of people writing books and cashing in on their name.
That was the impression I got anyway. Also people want things
to be as outrageous as possible and I was told that a lot of
what is out there that has come from other people is
basically lies, so I can see why they would question my
motivation. I was starting to read the stuff that is out
there and it really annoyed me. There was an article in
Norway where they wrote Sid was drugged up and unconscious in
the hotel lobby when they arrived, when he was just tired and
asleep. There was another article that said The Sex Pistols
had swastikas tattooed to their foreheads. This was from
1977. But itís just lies of course. Someone was writing that
we had been in a music shop and gotten thrown out for
spitting. And so on. So I decided to set the record straight.
Sid canít defend himself and I was there, so hope my book
makes people sit up and pay attention and stop buying in to
the hype around him. Eileen Polk was there the night he died
and sat with his body until the coroner came. She was at the
funeral and when Anne, his mother, scattered his ashes We can
tell you what happened from experience and not by research.
Am I making sense?
Finally, where can we buy this book, and get
more information on it?
The book is called A Vicious Love Story and will be
released worldwide on Friday the 13th of July 2012. Itís a
good day to release, as I was born on Friday the 13th but in
January not July, so I thought it apt. You can pre order it
from Little Acorns Publishing Ltd in the UK and they will
ship it to you.
It will be available on Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk. We are
working on getting bookstores to stock it, but your local
bookstore can always order it for you if you ask them since
it will be on their list of available publications in the
Barnes and Noble catalogue.
And finally, if they want to find out more about what exactly
is in the book I think you are going to review it, arenít you
Johnny ? So then they can read about it here in the near
The book is indeed going to be reviewed here in Punk Globe
magazine very soon. But if this interview is anything to go
by, its gonna be a great read. We thank you Teddie, and wish
you every success with the Book.