Punk Globe:
How did you feel when you got kicked out of
TUXEDOMOON?
PZ::::: I was pretty upset
because I really loved playing with TM ...It was my first
experience with REAL TALENTED ART GUYS....but Steven got really
angry when I was starting to play with SVT (or maybe it was
still The Readymades...I cant really remember ) BUT TM was still
playing in basements that were full of
water,
and doing that whole "we are starving ARTISTS " And I MISSED a
TM show because I fucked up my booking and My OTHER band was
opening for The Ramones and their crew wouldn't let us
soundcheck while they were eating their Pizza so I MISSED a TM
SHOW by 35 minutes.....Steven was FURIOUS.....thing was..... I
LOVED the music that I was making with TM but they didn't seem
to really care about having me in the band. I was VERY into
being as creative as I could be at the time. We were all living
at 3645 Market St. at the time and I was having a gasser working
with Tommy Tadlock on his 4 track figuring out how
to make drums sound like anything but drums. I loved that
guy…….We would spend HOURS making a snare drum sound like a
Dolphin or a Whale song or goodness knows
what….I loved working with Tommy. He was a genius. He taught me
TONS of stuff you don't learn in music school.. But Steven
DID not want
me walking around being a "Pop Star" So he made Blaine
FIRE me and then they got Greg Langston to play the drums and in
TRUE TM style THEN Steven made me come and show Greg how to play
"No Tears" (Not that GREG couldn't pull it off himself, he was
GREAT....It was just Steven's way
of "Teaching me a lesson").
Punk Globe: What about
the end of SVT?
PZ::::Well , That was pretty
heartbreaking. I loved Brian ,& that band was just
about the height of my life It seemed like we could move
mountains...But a lot of people thought we sucked because we
refused to PRETEND to be political....There was a lot of that
"Oh the Clash isn't in it for the money so nether are we" Which
more or less turned out to be bullshit……But anyway...I never
wanted to be RICH.....I wanted to be HAPPY....And be able to
pull off GOOD SHOWS...That was about as far ahead as I
looked......
…When Brian died it was nearly
the end for me…..He was my best friend and I had never lost
anybody so
close before…It was fucking terrible….I thought I was a goner.
But I had a lot of good friends who helped to pull me
through…They ALL helped me....and I survived, somehow….And I
continued playing with the YANKS who some people seemed to think
were the idea in the first place….But I'm not sure about
that……The Yanks Eventually Tanked anyway…
I went to Europe with the Flamin'
Groovies and Cyril 'n George
stiffed me for a bunch of cash…..Actually they stiffed EVERYBODY
for a lot of cash by putting pillows in the hotel beds and
leaving shirts in the closets & soap & shaving stuff in the
bathrooms and skipping town just like in the movies…It was
pretty funny…except the guys that t
hey stole the money from didn't think so…Cyril & George didn't
bother telling ME they were leaving with the trunk full of
cash…They were SO paranoid they were getting robbed they started
collecting all the cash from the shows.....About 35 shows...Thats
a lot of cash........I haven't spoken to to Cyril since
the night he shook my hand and said "SEE YOU AT THE BBC TOMORROW
AT NOON" …..Have you heard my song "The Liar & the
Thief" It's not about them…But it might as well
be….
Punk Globe:
What do you think about the RE-RELEASE of "NO REGRETS" On
RYKODISC??
PZ: It's TRAGIC…It took
those people about 25 years to TOTALLY fuck up the only real SVT
album we ever made. Brian's brother took it upon himself to
re-release the album but didn't bother with any BAND MEMBERS…He
didn't' ask ANYBODY from SVT to be involved in the remastering
of the album and for some reason he thought Johnny
Colla should do it….Johnny Colla didn't know SQUAT
about SVT other than going to 7th grade with Brian
and somehow managed to blow a LOT of money totally fucking up
the record (they made an ugly stupid new cover
too at great expense that they didn't ask
US about)….I tried to stop them from putting it out…..But
they told me to go fuck myself. We no longer talk ..Colla
wrote a BUNCH of stupid 'Liner Notes' that have NOTHING to do
with SVT…But have a LOT to do with Colla's Ego…..They even
forgot to mention anybody who actually MADE the record in the
first fuckin' place….some of whom are RIP's
now…..Like for example Mark "Rooster" Richardson from Atlanta
who produced the album in the FIRST PLACE!!!!
Punk Globe:
So what are you gonna do NOW???
PZ: I am going to continue to
make music in the SPIRIT of my best friend Brian Marnell,
the best way I know how We have enough material for 3 or 4
albums recorded at this point, we hope to find an outlet for it
SOON....…And I will continue to try to play kickass stuff until
I run into Brian,, Britley & Dirk and we can all
yell at each other about how the chorus should go……..
agree
that I was "in" for the tour. The only catch was that the tour
didn't start for 3 months and I was nearly penniless in London
with 500 pounds of drums in flight cases and no place to
stay.