Interviewed by: Sharla Cartner |
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While I was visiting America, I had the unique opportunity of
meeting and talking to Dana and Lliam of Minus One in Alameda. It was a
bright sunny day and I took a bus from Berkeley where I was staying,
through Oakland and arrived in Alameda, shortly afterwards Dana and Lliam
arrived. We all sat down and chatted about Minus One! Band: Dana - Guitar Lliam - Drums Michael - Bass |
Part 1 – “The Kids Don’t Skate Here” |
Lliam: That's cool.
Punk Globe: Yeah, Darron sent it to
me, so it was cool.
Dana: Oh great. Do you have any
favorite songs on this record?
Punk Globe: Ummm. I am not very good
with song names. (Looking at the CD) I like… I actually really like that
“Dude Someone Must Of Dropped You On Your Head”. |
Dana: Yeah. |
Punk Globe: I like that, I like the
guitar. |
Lliam: Well there is a funny story
about that. It's actually Someone Must Of Dropped You On Your Head. And
Dana's sister was telling the record label that the songs…
Dana: That were going to be on the
album.
Lliam: That were going to be on the
record and she just said, “Dude Someone Must Of Dropped You On Your Head.”
And they were like… “OK, Dude Someone Must Of Dropped You On Your Head.”
That's not the title before, but now it might as well be. But at the......
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Punk Globe: At the time.
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Lliam: At the time that’s Alanna
going, “Dude Someone Must Of Dropped You On Your Head.”
Dana: That's my younger sister,
she’s one of the best rock photographers on the planet.
Lliam: Yeah she is great.
Dana: I shit you not! |
Punk Globe: Heard about her…
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Dana: She is fucking amazing
photographer! Rock photographer. Photographs musicians, all of her
photography is stellar but her shit she makes me look so good. I can’t
even believe it!
Lliam: (Looking at the CD) this is
probably... this is pretty much retrospective too. I mean this all
throughout the career there’s three songs on here that we had recorded
specifically for the album in 2008.
Dana: Right |
Punk Globe: What are the three
songs? |
Lliam: Not “Dude Someone Must Of
Dropped You On Your Head” “Get use to it”... ummm.
Dana: “Blindman”
Lliam: “Blindman” yeah there you go,
no wonder I couldn't see it, and “Out Of The Darkness”. My personal
favorite.
Dana: Mine too. Do you like the last
song? |
Punk Globe: Yeah I do like the last
song. So what was the original name of “Dude Someone Must Of Dropped You
On Your Head”. |
Lliam: “Someone Must Have Dropped
You On Your Head.” |
Punk Globe: OK. |
Lliam: So those three were recorded
“Blindman,” “Get Use To It,” and “Out Of The Darkness,” are brand new. The
other songs are throughout our whole little career and that's just a
sampling. I mean we probably got, I mean… not kidding, like what 50, 60?
Dana: 50, 60 songs, I wrote them
down and I know I forgot a couple. |
Punk Globe: Yeah.
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Part 2 – The Evolution Of Minus One |
Punk Globe: What year was
that?
Dana: We got back together December
06 and started rehearsing January 07.
Lliam: Originally she might have
meant.
Punk Globe: Yeah originally.
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Dana: Oh originally I'm sorry.
Lliam: They met in high school him
and the bass player.
Dana: I met the bass player in 8th
grade.
Lliam: 8th grade yeah right.
Dana: I was playing guitar and
singing I like really didn't have my shit together as far singing and
guitar. |
Punk Globe: Yeah. |
Lliam: (Looking at my voice
recorder) you know you can take this tape off? |
Punk Globe: Can you take it off for
me? |
Lliam: Yeah it just covers the
little thingy here so… |
Punk Globe: That would make life so
much easier. |
Lliam: So it doesn't get...
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Punk Globe: Now I actually can see
what I am doing. |
Lliam: I don't even know if it is
on! |
Punk Globe: It is the light is on,
isn't it? Yeah the red light is on. |
Lliam: It's so funny it is the same
on the tape as it is on the actual thing! |
Punk Globe: See it is ticking over.
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Lliam: Yeah all right. |
Punk Globe: OK. |
Lliam: I will just put that here.
(Placing the display label from my voice recorder onto Dana’s tape deck.)
Dana: There you go.
Lliam: There you go now his looks
very hi tech.
Dana: Now I am high tech. Anyway
this guy and I have been friends since high school. What do you think of
Michael? That's also him that is the bass player there. (Dana shows me the
picture on the CD). |
Punk Globe: That is a cool picture.
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Dana: That picture was taken by
Kevin Thatcher who was the founder of Thrasher magazine the editor… and I
went to high school with him he was one of my best friends… so we all had
a tight little click and we stayed all together at a house in Los Gatos
where I met Geoffrey Tribe… and it was through Thrasher magazine party
that everybody moved up to San Francisco… that was the beginning of every
bodies career we kind of like… we got it together… did something… “put a
band together”… “put a band together”… we all went to the city together of
course he just took off… Thrasher magazine was just unreal... But Michael…
when I first met him he demanded that I teach him guitar… and he came to
my house and he demanded, you couldn't say no you have to teach me… so we
just started a friendship… we have been best friends for 100 years… and he
became a really good musician… and I never really wanted to be in a band
with him… and then when the magazine was coming out I hadn't seen him in
about four years… he drove by in his car… we just met at an intersection
got in the car and said, ”We need to start a band.” And that was what we
did… and that was Minus One and that's how it got started. We lost our
original drummer he stayed in San Jose.
Lliam: Lee.
Dana: Lee… and Lee is on like “Kids
Don't Skate Here”, “I Remember John”, “Nick Of Time”.
Lliam: All of the really good
drumming… Lee is great man! I don't even tell that…
Dana: He is fabulous.
Lliam: I have played on records
where there has been other drummers and I am like… I have played on these
songs not those just so you know… On this one, “Did you play on
everything?” “Oh yeah that is all me!” I mean Lee is so good you know…
sure I will take credit for this.
Dana: Dude he was like Keith Moon
when I met him.
Lliam: He was a great drummer.
Dana: He was a fabulous drummer.
Lliam: Really good.
Dana: Really fabulous drummer. At
the time I was thinking how are we going to replace Lee man! That is going
to be impossible. But we were determined me and Michael said “We are going
to find a fucking drummer.” So we started hiring people for gigs but we
didn't have a permanent drummer and then I saw him playing (pointing to
Lliam).
Lliam: No I saw you playing.
Dana: No this is a true story
totally meant to be Sharla… totally meant to be.
Lliam: unfortunately. (Jokingly)
Dana: Same thing for him. I walk in
and I see this band playing and I see this drummer swinging his arms like
Townsend on drums… and I thought I got to play with that motherfucker… and
I called my best friend (Michael bass player) “I found our drummer dude, I
found our drummer! He's in a band called the Lifers you got to come and
see him.” About two weeks later we're playing.
Lliam: Yeah that's true.
Dana: And I am fucking…
Lliam: I walk by with my boom hand
like I always have… and just looking you know… what's going on in there… I
see this mad banshee just like moping the stage with like a telecaster or
something like… kkkeeehhh with this roar coming out of the speakers… I
just go… Errrr I want to play with him… I have regretted it ever since...
Dana: regretted it ever since... Oh
that is not true not true.
Lliam: I forgot about that part,
that you saw me, then I saw you, and then you guys had to get me away.
Dana: We stole you from the Lifers
man! |
Punk Globe: Was that hard or…
getting away from the Lifers? |
Lliam: It was weird. Well, I kept
playing for the Lifers we did tours, and stuff… but you know… everything
falls were it falls right. Every time you roll the dice it is always God
so…
Dana: Yeah totally meant to be… and
you know we wouldn't be together now if we weren't die hard brothers then;
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Punk Globe: Yeah.
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Part 3 – DC Jam Records |
Dana: So the fact we got together
was almost… just didn't even seem like… I couldn't even imagine that we
going to get a chance to play again.
Lliam: The fact any of else are
still alive.
Dana: We're all still alive… and we
all in the same neighbored and that we could actually do something… we
could actually put the old band together again... just unbelievable… I had
been out of town I found a place and said, “Dude I am here let's start
playing. Yeah let's do Minus One.” So that picture on the inside was when
we instantly decided to do it all again… so then we had some great gigs…
had some gigs at the Great American Music Hall I wrote some poetry… and I
wrote a poem about Dirk Dirksen… and I read it at his funeral.
Lliam: That was great.
Dana: I read it before a gig at the
Great American Music Hall… and we got some great gigs together… and then
we got an internet presence… we hadn't done that right…. so we had a
internet presence for about 9 months… and one day I am looking at my email
and I see this record label… and I am going who the fuck is that? I email
them back I said “I'm just answering your email not sure who you are. Are
you a label?” The guy emails me back… “I am a total mad fan of Minus One,
I have a label and I want you guys, to sign a record deal with you.” So I
was like give me your number. |
Punk Globe: That was DC Jam Records?
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Dana: That was Darron |
Punk Globe: Yeah Darron (from DC Jam
Records). |
Dana: I called the guy and he said
“Yeah… like… man… I been a fan of Minus One since I was 13 years old and I
got a record label and I want to sign you guys.” |
Punk Globe: Schweet! |
Dana: We didn't even know… we got
back together on pure love. Pure love we weren't expecting it you know…
the record industry the machine is gone. It's disassembled right… we are
all learning how to be musicians again now… how you do it now…
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Punk Globe: So now… like… from when
you first started out, how record companies have changed. Is it like…
dramatically? |
Dana: Oh yeah, yeah. I mean actually
we almost got to be huge rock stars in the original format we were
playing. In the those days it was a matter “Are we going to be
discovered?” That was kind of in every bodies mind. I always figured we
were so good… it was going to be impossible for us not to be discovered.
Lliam: We were… I mean this guy is
one of the greatest songwriters and he is up there with any of them.
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Part 4 – Song Writing & Influences |
Dana: Sought of yeah I mean umm...
Lliam: Does a bunch of lines… smokes
a couple of joints…
Dana: That's my process!
Lliam: Then he’s got to calm down…
so he takes a couple of lubes… and drinks some.... Where does it end! You
say they come at you. It like true genius. I can say that because I am not
him.
Dana: It's like a sculptor or
something I can start with any piece of block. I know I am skilled enough.
I can make something out of it as soon as I can apply myself. I can write
a song right now if you said, ”Write a song right now.” I could do it.
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Punk Globe: Well we might do that
then. Start thinking! |
Dana: My process is basically
playing the guitar… putting some chords together… putting the melody over
the chords…. then usually write the lyrics out. |
Punk Globe: Music first then lyrics?
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Dana: Yeah usually, but it's not…
there is no patent way… sometimes I will write lyrics first… then put
music to it… or sometimes I will pick up a bass and write a bass line.
Lliam: I think it is obvious that
it’s all coming from a higher source. You know… you know what I mean…
people can write songs even a pretty good song, but there is like… songs
that come right from a higher source. |
Punk Globe: Yeah they come all at
once. |
Dana: Yeah.
Lliam: Yeah like you know… like I
don't know like a Beatles or something like that… or I don't know some
modern bands probably too… can't think of any but it is a real difference
to me... what I hear… the quality of the song… well crafted, well written
or a song that is like… Wow! Where did that come from? Like I don't want
to be like old skool but like Sting or something… like you listen to
Roxanne. Where did the fuck that come from?
Dana: Yeah Roxanne.
Lliam: (Pointing at Dana) He's as
easily as good as any of those guys he is just too crazy. |
Punk Globe: So who would be your
main influences? |
Lliam: Probably in the early days
the Police.
Dana: Yeah probably in the early
days the Police were certainly an inspiration… they were really... when I
realize music was changing I got really excited about it too. You know,
but my initial influences… I learnt from the best man! I grew up on the
Beatles and their records. (Dana contacted me later to add a few more
influences to his list.) Also Peter Gabriel, Todd Rundgren... Jeff Beck...
Cream... Traffic... Queen... Stones... Yes... Genisis... Frank Zappa..
that should do it... Oh yeah.. Also the Jam.. Elvis Costello.. Suzi and
the Banshees.... The Clash.. Pretenders... Neil Young... Crosby Stills and
Nash... Miles Davis...
Lliam: and the Who, you like.
Dana: And the Who and those guys are
the blue print for any other band that came after them… and you still
can't touch the Beatles… and you can't touch the Who… they are still
together you can't touch the Rolling Stones… and my dad is a jazz musician
and he made sure I had like the important records. He was the first one
who told me about the Beatles. “Hey there is this band called the Beatles
I think you would really like them they have got some really neat songs.”
This is in 1964 I was a little tiny kid. So he came home with “Meet The
Beatles” and “Introducing The Beatles” and “Introducing The Beatles”
didn't even have a record cover because he got it from some record store
owner… just gave it to him he bought these records home.
Lliam: Wow!
Dana: I started playing those
records I said “My God this is what I want to do.” And I started writing
music immediately. I started writing music at 7 and 8. I use to have a
little stick and that was my guitar. I was programming my body to do this
(Dana demonstrates strumming a guitar), I was teaching my voice to how
sing while doing other things… and I was writing lyrics so I was actually
a songwriter at 9 years old. I listed them all and checked what I was
doing… I wrote 6 or 7 hours worth of songs before I learned how to play.
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Punk Globe: That's cool!
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Dana: My dad finally bought a
guitar and said, “Are going to play a stick all your life or are you going
to learn how to play a guitar." Because my stick was my guitar.
Lliam: You listen to songs on the
record… I mean like “Kids Don't Skate Here” that's the oldest one on it.
Dana: That was one of our first
songs.
Lliam: When was that written?
Dana: That was written at Thrasher's
house I wrote that at the house… I was living with him
Lliam: I think Michael said he wrote
it.
Dana: He did, he actually did! That
was 50/50 I'm sorry, I was thinking of the music.
Lliam: That's the thing you know it
is like a black black star or something is just… swish the gravitational
force just sucks everything right up.
Dana: That song is totally 50/50.
Lliam: Anyone of those like you
know… how that was like 20 something years ago… there just fucking great
songs… you know I am sorry these are kids writing these… and that's like
being touched. You know, you just don't just learn how to play some chords
and write a song like that. You know God calls you. "Hey Dana,”
Dana: Yeah.
Lliam: "Got a song for you what are
you doing?" "Don't bug me leave me alone I am trying to smoke, trying to
ruin my voice, so Lliam will yell at me. Call me another time God."
Dana: "I'm busy now!"
Lliam: "I got to a lot of songs for
you Dana!"
Dana: "Well can you hold on to them
for just a minute"
Lliam: "Well the lines been busy
what the hell are you doing down there on earth." “I got things to do."
Dana: "Lines to do."
Lliam: "Lines to do."
Dana: "I got some lines to do. I
mean I got to study my lines." |
Punk Globe: What bands would you
listen to these days? |
Lliam: I like the Killers a lot, I
like My Morning Jacket I think their last album was brilliant I like the
new U2 album, the whole new U2 album was really really good. (Pointing to
Dana) He's going to probably hit me with a club or something but I like
Coldplay.
Dana: I think Coldplay is good!
Lliam: Yeah I know like you’re going
to beat you up! That last record that Eno produced was really good but the
new U2.
Dana: You like that album
Lliam: My Morning Jacket have you
heard them yet there really good! |
Punk Globe: What about you Dana what
sort of new bands you like? |
Dana: I like the Killers too but I
only like their first record. |
Punk Globe: Yeah understandable.
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Dana: Ummm new people??? I don't
know if I am into a lot of new people really. I'm not closed to it.
Lliam: Yeah you’re not. He brings
the CD's home he puts them down on the record player and drops the needle
down and “shhhh”… and nothing happens. He can't figure it out and he is
like, “I don't like this bunch of stuff there putting out these days. I am
sticking to my albums.”
Dana: Well every once in a while I
will hear something good that I like. But Coldplay is a formula band that
is what I don't like about them
Lliam: What do you mean by formula?
Dana: Because they had so much
success with this certain arrangements that he had… and he had developed a
way like... like she asked me how I do my songs... what's the process? You
have things that you repeat it's like putting a puzzle together.
Lliam: So he just got like a
straight formula.
Dana: He's got a formula. He knows
what works so he continues to stay in that musical area he doesn't really
take any chances musically. |
Punk Globe: I'd actually agree with
you about that, definitely. |
Lliam: Yeah that makes sense, I know
that is the truth. I just wanted to hear all this explained. U2 is kind of
like that to. |
Punk Globe: Yeah they are
definitely. |
Dana: Yeah but you know what I love
that. |
Punk Globe: But they changed… they
changed from the 80's to the 90's, their sound has changed they have
progressed. |
Dana: They're tremendous they are in
a class of their own.
Lliam: Well they're got Daniel
Lanois and Brian Eno producing their records. If those guys got with us.
If you know them have them give us a call. |
Punk Globe: Oh I don't know them but
yeah... Not personally anyway. |
Lliam: Maybe someone you know, knows
them. (Pointing at Dana) Look! You already stole someone else’s lighter.
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Punk Globe: It's ok I don't know
whose red lighter it is. |
Dana: She stole it first!
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Part 5 – New Album and The Internet |
Dana: Yeah October.
Punk Globe: October 2008. Any plans
for anything else coming up or tours?
Lliam: Well Dana and I went into the
studio and recorded some ideas and we're going to get Michael involved.
Dana: Yeah we are about to go and do
another record, the labels going to do another album for us. We are kind
of on a really tight schedule. Like what our record deal consists of which
is kind of 21st century. Kind of worth mentioning because it is
interesting … this guy found us… all we have to do is give him the master.
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Punk Globe: Oh good! |
Dana: And then he does everything
else. That’s the deal… we come up with the album… we record the album
ourselves.
Lliam: All we have to do is all the
work and then we give it to him and he gives us 10%!
Dana: That's not true.
Lliam: Isn't it great!
Dana: He is willing to manufacture
and distribute our product so that's the deal… so he promised us another
record… we are going do another record in like the next 2 months. And then
we got a fall tour….
Lliam: If it wasn't for him nothing
would get done. It's worth it.
Dana: (Looking at the CD) It’s
really cool, it’s like Lliam said, this is like a full picture of our
whole career.
Lliam: What did I tell you when you
went on the internet? At the very beginning. I go “Dana, Dana you’re a
brilliant song writer, your songs are spectacularous, if you get on that
internet, I don't care if someone shows up at your house with wheelbarrows
of money. Still don't sign! Talk to me first whatever you do. Dana don't
sign anything! Even truck loads of cash they pull out the front of your
house.”
Dana: He did say that!
Lliam: "Hey Lliam! I just signed
with this guy… got us a deal now all we have to do is record everything
and then turn it into him… yeah it's really cool!" I'm like ohhh.....
Dana: Yeah that's basically true!
Lliam: Totally true yeah
Dana: That’s basically true! But
it’s a pretty schweet deal we’re going to get to go to Europe too!
Lliam: He's a good guy.
Dana: Yeah He’s a great guy.
Lliam: He’s a good guy.
Dana: We got some dates in the Fall…
we are going into finish some tracks off.
Lliam: I just show up!
Dana: I am excited… we get to do
another record and we also have totally artistic freedom.
Lliam: I figured on going to
Australia in the Fall to be honest.
Dana: You want to go and visit
Sharla?
Lliam: Damn Australia sounds pretty
good in the Fall I need a vacation.
Dana: He’s likes Keith Moon he’s
alway sabotages interviews. |
Punk Globe: We have a lot of music
festivals, lots of music festivals. |
Lliam: January, February?
Dana: I would love to go and play in
Australia |
Punk Globe: Yeah tell Darron to look
up like ummm… Warped Tour (sorry I meant Soundwave), Big Day Out,
Meredith… |
Lliam: Put your phone number in the
article and I will come over. |
Punk Globe: I am not putting my
phone number on the net. I have enough people calling me I don’t know who
they are. |
Dana; Right right!
Lliam: I did that the other day I am
looking for a roommate and I put my phone number on this ad and I was like
oh boy anything could happen. Not one person calls they answered the email
and then I called them. |
Punk Globe: You got to put the right
picture next to it. |
Lliam: Ohhh that ain’t right!!!
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Punk Globe: Some blonde Swedish girl
next to it then you will get lots of phone calls. |
Lliam: I did get these people
noting… I am new to the internet… I am a late what's it called... adaptor!
I put this ad on Craigslist and I got like… the first one of course is "Hi
I’m Natalie from Norway and my school… where going to send me to... I am
going to be in America in a month… all I need is your bank account number
etc... I am like Oh My God… I've heard about this stuff right …but it is
really true I got two of them... it's like… Oh sure Natalie. |
Punk Globe: Yeah… well I got ask to
marry a Russian girl which I thought is quite weird. Because gay marriage
is not legal in Australia. |
Dana: Oh My God they were going to
pay you some money? |
Punk Globe: Yeah. |
Lliam: To marry a Russian girl?
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Punk Globe: Yeah. Punk Globe: It's like well we can't get married here it's illegal. |
Dana: Oh My God, we should tell…
should get Darren to look into Australia.
Lliam: And to look into Norwegian
exchange students.
Dana: We need some of that too. But
we did get a song in a film I went to the premiere. "I Remember John", the
song about John Lennon was in a film called The Fifth Form and
they paid us for that movie.
Lliam: Did you guys pay me?
Dana: Yeah you got a cut of that.
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Punk Globe: Went to your health
insurance. |
Lliam: Yeah, yeah Oh God.
Dana: "Does he owe me $40??"
Lliam: I know you owe me for your
passport.
Dana: I owe him $100 for my
passport.
Lliam: $120.
Dana: We can leave the country
together.
Lliam: Yeah, you got to have that
passport under your belt you never know when you going to have to flee.
Dana: Actually today we are going to
learn some new songs. I got some new songs I am going to teach him after
this interview today for the next album. We got like maybe five if we can…
we need to finish. |
Punk Globe: So new album coming out
all new songs? |
Dana: Yeah. |
Punk Globe: Any bonus tracks of the
old stuff? |
Dana: (Looking at Lliam) I don't
know think we should?
Lliam: Yeah there will definitely be
some old songs.
Dana: We have a lot of good songs
that haven’t been recorded yet… we got songs that are just gems that
aren’t going to be on the next album yet… but we got new ones I had like I
said…. when we got back together I counted all the songs… I said we going
to do four records in the next three years but we were going to do it
ourselves… and so we didn't have to do record one… record one came along
just like we planned sought of…. we were going to do it ourselves but now
Darron is putting out our music… so it's great… there is some gems from
old stuff and some new stuff… we are very excited about… and as I mention
earlier we have total artistic control so it’s a great deal… even in the
contract it's stated that the label has enough faith in the artist that
the artist can produce the material hard for the record company to put
out… which basically says they have faith in you… as an artist… and your
creative abilities. When I read that I did… I signed without him I signed
up first then I told him.
Lliam: Yeah you did you bastard.
Dana: But now he's the treasurer oh
no Michael's the treasurer.
Lliam: Oh I got to be the treasurer
Michael’s over in San Francisco we don't what he's up to.
Dana: Did you actually purchase the
album on the internet or did someone give it to you? |
Punk Globe: No Darron sent it to me.
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Dana: He sent it to you.
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Punk Globe: He sent me a lot of
stuff I have done a few reviews for different bands. (Looking at the DC
Jam Skate Vol 1 CD) Where are they I will read them off here? |
Lliam: What about the Heard we did
some shows in New York with the Heard and they were just great.
Dana: They were great.
Lliam: I wore their t shirt just
yesterday.
Dana: Oh My God. |
Punk Globe; Lisa, I think she did
the Heard one of my friends. What did I do, I think I did 300 Pounds, The
Rudy Schwartz Project of course, JFA. |
Dana: JFA really? |
Punk Globe: I like JFA, I think she
did Venomous I think she has done more than me from these guys… so yeah I
can't remember it all becomes a blur after a while… I have the internet to
look things up on and see what I have done. |
Part 6 - Playing Live & The Audience |
Dana: The interesting thing about
the “Kids Don't Skate Here” it's actually a diary of what was really
happening… at that moment my friends were becoming famous skaters.
Punk Globe: 80's era?
Dana: Yeah the early 80's I was
living with Kev… I remember the night he was drawing the first cover… the
absolute first cover of Thrasher magazine… we were sitting in the kitchen…
we had been up all night… he was drawing and I was playing you know… three
or four in the morning… that became a certain posse that started the band…
the thing that happened was we were just writing a song about our friends…
and then they became famous… so I kind of inspired that whole skate rock
movement… all the skate rock came from that song… the whole idea came from
that song… Kev originally said let's have a flexi disc in the first issue
of Thrasher.
Lliam: What's that?
Dana: Disc that use to come in
magazines you tear them out they are floppy and that was the first idea…
so I said "Yeah that would be great that would put us right on the map."
that turned into Thrasher releasing Skate Rock Vol 1 on cassette and we
had four songs on that one… so we were kind of one of the first band to
write about skaters therefore.... inventors of skate rock.
Lliam: And what have they done for
us!
Dana: Yeah what have they done for
us? No we made royalties… we had royalties from Thrasher for a long time.
Anyway that’s how all that got started… that’s how Darron sees us he
listened to us as a teenager… it’s just kind of interesting the record
deal could of come along and…. we could not of been together as a band… I
mean we might of had to say thanks but no thanks. It was just shit luck
that we were rehearsed and ready to be something. |
Punk Globe: Timing |
Dana: Timing! Yeah so when the
timing is right I think the universe is behind that. |
Punk Globe: So what's like one of
the most memorable concerts you've played or gigs you've played or shows?
|
Lliam: We can't remember!
Dana: I would say the Great
American Music Hall in 07.
Lliam: Oh yeah that was great.
Dana: Oh fabulous.
Lliam: Really good classic.
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Punk Globe: What made it so special?
|
Lliam: The sound was good.
Dana: Yeah.
Lliam: The sound was good… it is a
big place… it was sold out… everyone… the band performed spectacularly….
it was surprising and energetic and totally pro… this guy sounded great
(pointing to Dana). |
Punk Globe: How do you find the
crowds these days how different are they compared to like the 80's and
stuff? |
Lliam: Well their more… what’s that…
when something goes (Lliam demonstrates with his hand an up and down
motion) like this… is that lateral??? ...Vertical… is that vertical? In
our day it was more lateral… these days they seem to go more vertical…
they jump on top of each other and ride around. That’s the main
difference. Dana's looking at me what the fuck??? |
Punk Globe: Talking about crowd
surfing and stuff. |
Lliam: Dana's like you get all
technical.
Dana: That was a good analogy.
Lliam: "I think the audiences these
days are much more vertical."
Dana: You know… sometimes I will
interview young people and ask them about their musical opinions… and I
have had some pretty interesting reactions… there is a group of like 24
years old that are about that now generation… who kind of came of age like
around early Green Day… that is why punk is still so huge… there was a
whole lot of teenagers when Green Day came up… and they are you know post
punk guys… and then this guy was relating to me how music all of a sudden
took a nose dive right… was when he was in high school and there was no
good music… music like suddenly became suck…
Lliam: What year? What time?
Dana: 1999, 2000, 2001 rock‘n’roll
was dying… not only had it died… it was being beaten into the ground… like
fuck those old white hippie rock’n’rollers… and I was just watching
rock’n’roll die on the vine… thinking Oh My God maybe this is the end of
it… and you know that was like when NSync and Backstreet Boys and all this
shit came up… and people buying their records were like 8, 9, 10, 11,
little kids…
Lliam: Poisoning them early.
Dana: Poisoning them early… but this
cat had been exposed to some good music early on in his life… and was
aware of the fact that music suddenly became fucked up… and he didn’t have
an answer for it… and then he started saying that now things are starting
to turn around… and he was saying that what people don't realize that
there is an audience that likes to see people play their instruments like
guitars, see guitarists play guitars… because they have been deprived from
seriously musicianship… all that homogenized fucking corporate group
shit that's like such crap… there's nobody playing… whose playing on those
records…. there is a fucking drum machine… and some producers going like
this… and there is no musicians in the studio… there’s a bunch of kids
that want to be Michael Jackson…. so as far as the creditability… you know
the integrity of the music… is fucking nonexistent… so then I started to
see a window that we would fit into… and I believe I know my audience
without actually touching them all the time… I know who my audience is…
and they are anybody from 24 to 34 to 44 cause older guys like that old
60's, 70's megalomania rock… and that was a great period man… 70's you can
call whatever you want but there was some fucking unreal bands in the
70's… and I was trying to define our record by market in my mind… you have
to sort of play to your audience… but anyway that was a real eye opener…
because I said well there is a whole lot of people who do want to see
people play their instruments… this shit isn’t dead… so then… that I
converted that into fuel for writing songs… so I think it did it kind of
took a nose dive for a minute… but it came back up you know… and were
proprietors for the… of the old skool real deal… that is what we are… if
you want to see someone rock out… fucking massive… total fucking rock… and
we were around when the shit was new you know… we played our first gig in
78 at the Nab… we came right out of that punk stuff… we have the
creditability as punk rockers… but we have the integrity of hard rockers.
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Part 7 – Airplay and On The Road |
Dana: I think it is great… I think
it is valuable.. I think it is vital… it has to happen.
Punk Globe: I mean a lot of people
are sort of like predicting that the next decade might be garage
punk…
Dana: That would be wonderful!
|
Punk Globe: Like you know you had
your Nirvana come out in the 90's. |
Dana: Yeah I think we'd fit into
that mosaic rather well… that's good I wasn't quite as aware of it… but
the internet is also creating a global audience that you can be in touch
with… it is pretty amazing just the short time we have had this record
out… we have had other songs get in movies and hell of a lot of airplay…
that we are not necessary in touch with but you can go on the net… and see
how many times your record has been played… and whose been playing it
|
Punk Globe: So what countries with
the airplay… who's playing your music? |
Dana: New Zealand, England, Canada,
and Untied States is what I am aware of… and I think there is more people
than that… oh actually I got an email from a guy in Czechoslovakia that
has a hardcore punk station… and he says I love your band and I am playing
your music please send me a CD…
Lliam: “With all your account
information… I want to contribute some money to your band… send me all
your account information, date of birth, mother's maiden name, to your
biggest fan in New Zealand.”
Dana: Your biggest fan in
Czechoslovakia.
Lliam: “Oh Czechoslovakia.”
Dana: We have fans in communist
Russia! It was funny the bands that he was listing off that he plays… I
know a couple of them… one of them was Annihilation Time… and they are
right over here in Oakland… I know those guys I have hung out with them…
they got a little house over there… they rehearse and you can hear them
sometimes… like what band are you… ohh Annihilation Time… and I was like
cool… I was hanging with them… talking to them… and then I got that email
from that kid… and I play bands like Minus One, Annihilation Time.
Lliam: Oh really, far out, cool.
Dana: You really don't know how much
your music is getting played but we do have some idea of our global
audience… and that's great… it’s a good time to reaffirm what's up with
rock’n’roll to. |
Punk Globe: You’re going to go on
tour. So how is your lifestyle going to change? What is life like on the
road with Minus One? |
Dana: It's not a party.
Lliam: Err… it's frustrating.
|
Punk Globe: A few drumsticks get
thrown? |
Lliam: It's like that! (Lliam points
to my screwed up empty cigarette packet on the table.)
Dana: What do you mean it's like
that? (Looking at Lliam) |
Punk Globe: We are actually in a bad
way here because two smokers and no cigarettes. |
Lliam: It's fun… because everyone
this last tour… everyone showed up… and played really well and it's always
fun being around Dana… because you don't know what he's going to do next
Dana: It was cool… we did a little
bit of drinking… did a little bit of some smoking weed … it was really
cool to be in upstate New York smoking some weed in the upstate…
Lliam: I would still be in New York
if I smoked weed. I am not very good at that.
Dana: He wasn't smoking. It was fun
we took some pictures of New York… and we played some really good gigs… it
was great… but it's not like Babylon… we’re not the Rolling Stones I think
at this point…
Lliam: Even the Rolling Stones
aren't the Rolling Stones anymore.
Dana: I think if we done a lot more
touring in the 80's… it probably would of been like big cult busters… you
know one of us might of OD.
Lliam: We definiately… all of us…
wouldn't of made it out… it's amazing that we did anyway but throw that in
there… and that's what I think… we weren't meant to make it back then…
because we didn't have the maturity to deal with it.
Dana: We were approached by Geffen
Records at one point.
Lliam: Yeah we were approached by a
really big label Geffen Records when David was just starting his label… he
came up and saw us but I don't think that we would of survived it.
|
Punk Globe: There is not many that
did, there is a lot that have gone. |
Dana: I think we are very fortunate
like Lliam said… to just to be alive… and be able to do our stuff… and I
think what we do is important… it is important… I know I can turn on
younger kids… like what's really happening in rock’n’roll… show them the
real deal… because people still love to rock out… and there is not a whole
lot of bands that can seriously deliver… so it is nice to have an idea of
who you are… and where you fit in on the plane… and why you’re doing it
you know… so when you think of music as a whole you think being a part of
that tapestry… I think we are vital… a vital component at this moment.. I
think that it was lucky we all stayed alive… and maybe now is the most
important time we could be playing.
Lliam: We were cryogenically frozen
it was either that or death… Dana is like can't say much more than that…
except we weren't really cryogenically frozen… we were like
biodegeneratically frozen… we would like look a lot better if we were
cryogenically frozen. |
Punk Globe; You want to spell that
for me? |
Lliam: God bless Michael Jackson.
Dana: Yeah right! Oh My God.
|
Punk Globe: Now I have lost train of
thought. |
Lliam: Mission accomplishment! Let’s
go! |
Part 8 – Lliam’s Heart & Message For The Fans |
Punk Globe: Well let's just talk
about you Lliam for a second because you have had all the heart stuff
happen to you. How did that affect you so much personally? The near death
experience?
Lliam: Yeah it was like several…
like really three…. the original, post operative, pre operative thing….
they made a mistake and broke the femoral artery you know… kind of
important… then I had heart surgery… but it's ahhh... the three songs that
are on this record that were recorded for just this record…. I'm playing
much more mellow… because I got so much less capacity.. because I can only
get so much energy going.
Dana: I think you did a great job.
Lliam: I think I did too… but it is
actually good. I mean to answer your question. One of the nurses when I
ended up back at this clinic… after you know this other terrible thing
happened… she's like "Their trying to slow you down"… like just the
world…. and it did and it is time to slow down sometimes… it's going to
sound like I'm nuts… but it totally helped my playing.
Dana: Really?
Lliam: Yeah you've said it yourself
kind of… anything you do you got to…. who knows… we might not be here
never mind tomorrow like the next half hour… it made a huge impact… it
made friendships stronger, loves stronger, faith stronger… I mean it could
go either way in life… a lot of life is like that… either you’re going to
have your experiences and get angry about it and you see that around… or
going to have your experiences and come out of it with a greater
appreciation for how lucky we are to be born.. a really fragile system…
really fragile. |
Punk Globe: That's good! Is there
anything else you guys would like to tell your fans and people who read
Punk Globe? |
Dana: Yeah I would like them to
listen to the new album… we are about to do the best record we have ever
done… and I would encourage them to download the artwork… and the whole
record… and to come and see our shows… because you’re going to see
something that you might never thought you knew.
Lliam: Yeah.
Dana: And yeah… I would thank our
listeners, any fans we have thank you for liking the music enough to buy
it or listen to it and you know… I'd like to hear from any of our fans on
our website. |
Punk Globe: Which is? |
Dana: Which is http://www.myspace.com/theoriginalminusone
and then of course you can go to http://www.dcjamrecords.com
you will also find Minus One material and photos… |
Punk Globe: And on MySpace as well?
|
Dana: And on MySpace as well. Thank
you.
Lliam: I was going to say Dana. I
was in the hospital… to get back to this thing about heart surgery… I was
in the hospital…
Dana: Now you’re going to bring it
up?
Lliam: No he knows what I am going
to get at…. this man will not listen to me… I'm in the hospital like
literally on the edge… between the worlds… so he gets a call right.. who
does he want to thank on the inside of the record… when the record comes
out I am looking and I see people that are very deserving of thanks
though, all these people Darron, Carl Macki, Ginger Coyote, Alanna
Wiitala, which is his sister, Don Alberts his father, Eric “Elvis” Walsh
who's that?
Dana: That's the guy who owns the
club that we played in Philadelphia.
Lliam: Anyway meanwhile.. there is a
guy that’s going through the side of my body… operating on my heart… I
would of loved to have a thank you to my heart surgeon… all these guys I
mean granted they are worthwhile… but he could’ve of called me in the
hospital… "Excuse me I know that your barely alive but is there anyone you
would like to thank"… Yeah I would like to thank Doctor H Conn for saving
my fucking life… so by the way when the next record comes out ok… can we
get a big giant thank you for Doctor H Conn.
Dana: Yeah that will be the cover.
Lliam: “I didn't know who to thank
so you know like I just thanked all the people I know!”
Dana: That's true! I thanked all the
people I know.
Lliam: So Doctor H Conn gets a thank
you next time.
Dana: Right ok we will splash out on
it next record. |
Punk Globe: Maybe a song?
|
Dana: Maybe a song… I might have to
write a song about the doctor.
Lliam: That would be beautiful! I
gave him a copy of the record and he said he was going to play it for the
next surgery… so some guy is getting his heart operated on while "Kids
Don't Skate Here!" He likes “Spreader, scalpel, hey this stuff is pretty
good.” “Doctor?” “Yeah, EKG is good. Oh like this one "I Remember John. I
Remember John." Close him up were done here. Oh wait a minute “Out Of The
Darkness”. He did that's a true story… he said… he got it… he goes thank
you, you know what I am going to play this at the next surgery we do…
that's what he said… they do it… they do it… that's a true story!
Dana: They listen to Minus One… well
shit that's worth a million dollars right there.. that's a million dollar
story right there. |
Punk Globe: That's a classic!
|
Dana: When we do the film…
Lliam: A re-enactment of it….
Dana: We will get a good actor to
play the doctor… |
Punk Globe: Film clip! There you go
a film clip, just get the doctor to come in and do it all over again.
|
Lliam: He would probably do it!
Dana: Actually we are going to
document this making of the next record… we got a videographer… who going
to come in and document the record… really cool guy… he has been building
up our website… another mover and shaker… he's into this dialogue media
multimedia thing…
Lliam: I got get going though.
Dana: Yeah OK that's fine… I think
we have covered. |
Punk Globe: Yeah. |
Lliam: Yeah, we done pretty good.
|
Punk Globe: Done good. |
Dana: Yeah I would like to thank
you, though Sharla. |
Punk Globe: Oh thank you!
|
Lliam: Yeah thanks a lot.
|
Punk Globe: And thanks guys that's
good! |
Entire Interview |